RP Discussion

[Ryoku]

This is a place to discuss the ongoing work of the RP, whether it be criticisms, comments, questions, concerns, and the like.

[so-ri-]

Yosh I hate it, coz I iz fanzboiz and I haz fanzboizmz one one one, Rowr!

No but seriously, have you gotten someone to do the GMing for it or are you gonna try your hand at it again?

[Ryoku]

I may try my hand at it here and there, but I don't have any real intention of being a lead GM or anything of the sort. Instead, I'll just sit there approving mission ideas and techniques and whatnot. Seems to be what I'm best suited at anyways.

What I'm going to try and do is fashion RPs to allow people to participate in them as antagonists with rewards for successful antagonizing.

[Sasuke]

Is the RP open for character creation then? Or not quite yet-but almost?

[sai]

That being said, to finish this up, I still need two more genjutsu (developing) as well as the remaining countries. If we can get those taken care of, the RP can pretty much just start...

I think the remaining countries have to be filled in. I have Uzu no Kuni claimed already. I think the geographical entities that makes up Earth and Fire Country are the ones that are left.

A reminder to the would-be Uchihas and whatever lies in between, the consensus and verdict from Ryoku is that we're five generations after the Sage of Six Paths.

I think the clans would have to be finalized as a starting point. For those without a clan, the bloodline limit would have to be approved. And after that, the initial setup and leveling procedure would be decided. All in all, you can probably create the history and character description. Ryoku\ has the say on when character creation begins.

[Sasuke]

Originally Posted by sai

I think the remaining countries have to be filled in. I have Uzu no Kuni claimed already. I think the geographical entities that makes up Earth and Fire Country are the ones that are left.

A reminder to the would-be Uchihas and whatever lies in between, the consensus and verdict from Ryoku is that we're five generations after the Sage of Six Paths.

I think the clans would have to be finalized as a starting point. For those without a clan, the bloodline limit would have to be approved. And after that, the initial setup and leveling procedure would be decided. All in all, you can probably create the history and character description. Ryoku\ has the say on when character creation begins.

Mkay, well like..When did we decide fully it was 5 generations? I know it was a low number, but it was bouncing between 2 and 3 and such. But this is no problem to me, Uchiha are Uchiha lol. Also, with what I submitted a while ago when Ryoku was looking for clan submissions, he has everything for the start-up for Uchiha. There was something else we were discussing in PM's, but when Ryoku has some free time, Im sure he'll get around to that.

Neato.

[sai]

Number on Map: 15
Demonic Presence: Medium
Name of Country: Whirlpool Country [渦の国, Uzu no Kuni]
Climate Description: The climate of Whirlpool Country is mild with monsoons occasionally straying off course from River Country. The climate is generally warm year long with a brief month-long cold season.
Terrain Description: Aside from a small mountain range that runs along the spine of the land mass that Whirlpool Country is situated upon, the country possesses little natural barriers to invasion by land. True to its namesake, the country is surrounded by unpredictable whirlpools courtesy of the prevailing ocean currents.
Government Style: The country is ruled by Daimyos centered near the isthmus that connects the country to the mainland. In many respects, Whirlpool Country is more similar to a confederation due to the relatively high autonomy of the local feudal lords. As a result of the Daimyos and the local feudal lords beneath them being followers of the Shinobi Sect or Ningensei no Shinobi, the country bears the distinction of being the only country officially ruled by shinobis. Whirlpool Country also bears a respect for strength so the strongest of the local feudal lords would lay claim to the position of Daimyo upon the death of the previous one.
Political Description/Foreign Policy: Whirlpool Country maintains friendly ties with its neighbors to the north with much of the trade passing overland. A major source of ill will with the surrounding countries is the usage of the lawless stretches of the coast as bases by pirates.
Military Type Description: Whirlpool Country maintains much of its military strength along the border with Autumn Country [秋の国, Aki no Kuni] and Spring Country [春の国, Haru no Kuni]. Aside from its samurai militia, the fear of the strength of its feudal lords has also proven to be a deterrent to attacks by other countries. Due to the unpredictable whirlpools around the coast of the country, invasion by water is considered suicidal even to the most experienced sailor. Due to the general policy of turning a blind eye to illicit activities by the local feudal lords, the pirates are generally willing to assist the navy if called upon.
Religious Information/Belief System (if any): Although the official state religion of Whirlpool Country is the Shinobi Sect of the Sage, the middle and lower classes generally believe in the same religions as its surrounding neighbors (River, Autumn and Spring Countries). As a pirate haven, obscure religions can easily be found in Whirlpool Country making its people fairly tolerant and receptive to new ideas.
Sundry Information: As a symbol of pride in its country, some of its inhabitants have incorporated 'Uzu' into part of their surnames ie Uzu-maki...
Specialty of Country: Whirlpool Country is particularly known for being a haven for mercenaries and being a point of contact with the criminal underworld such as pirates and gangs.
Shinobi Interaction:
-Join and assist a pirate crew in pillaging ships on the high seas [Highly Illegal]
-Assist a shady shipping crew in delivering an important "package"
-Deal with the occasional demon attacks on behalf of the government

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When did we decide fully it was 5 generations?

It was the post before the one I provided. I argued for 5 generations as opposed to 3 and Ryoku agreed with it in the post provided. I'll get another two countries done by tomorrow if no one has any problems.

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Number on Map: 12
Demonic Presence: Medium
Name of Country: Autumn Country [秋の国, Aki no Kuni]

Number on Map: 14
Demonic Presence: Low
Name of Country: Spring Country [春の国, Haru no Kuni]

[Ryoku]

Another good country. I would like to play less on shinobi as leaders at this point, but one country that has adopted the idea isn't going to break the bank. I'm looking forward to your continued good work.

Also, yes, 5 generations played out better overall, giving us roughly 100 years between those events. Enough time for some clans to have risen, some to have fallen, and others to be solidifying themselves finally. I would like for people not to create characters yet until we can finish countries up (or get really close to it). That should be our priority at this point, as well as clan submissions which I will get around to soon (as in probably after playing some more Call of Duty and PWI).

[so-ri-]

Number on Map: 1
Demonic Presence: High
Name of Country: Earth Country [土の国, Tsuchi no Kuni]
Climate Description: The country has four distinctive temperate seasons. Snow season (winter) then Mud season (spring) followed by hot season (summer) and harvest (autumn). The seasonal temperatures are maintained by the country's large coast though the coast is frozen in all but the hot season.
Terrain Description: Only the eastern half of the country is inhabited with most of the population living in valleys between the large mountains. During the mud and hot seasons, melt off from the snow-caps of the larger mountains feed the rivers which flow perpetually during these times depositing silt for local farmers to use. Wild game is also plentiful, drifting during the seasons except when bands of demons rampage the land.
Government Style: While the country is ruled by successive Daimyo politically, the true power of the country lies within its council of elders. Words of the wise (elderly) are strictly enforced and the country considers disobeying an elder a serious crime punishable by seizure of property, jail time, expulsion from the city or in worse case scenarios - sacrifice to the demon plague.
Political Description/Foreign Policy: Because most of the resources of the country is wrapped up in demon quelling the state has little time for external politics. Coupled with the fact that its only neighbors, Claw Country [爪の国, Tsume no Kuni] and Fang Country [牙の国, Kiba no Kuni] are in perpetual war with one another and the country's isolationist view becomes more understandable. Though rumors through the ranks speculate that the Daimyo will expand southward to end the fighting between the two countries once and for all by simply engulfing them.
Military Type Description: The country relies mostly on the youth who are conscripted to join the Daimyo's army for the period of 10 years. After this (those who survive) are given property in any major city and may take any person younger than themselves as their spouse without question.
Religious Information/Belief System (if any): They believe in the wisdom of the elderly and see no need for gods, deities or other such 'religious nonsense'.
Sundry Information: Earth Country is the only known country that have attempted to use demonic contracting to further their own military power. While the practice has been 'officially abolished' by the state - there are still fringe areas of the country where it can be taught to a trusted outsider by 'the elders'.
Specialty of Country: Big game dishes feed the majority of the country's population.
Shinobi Interaction:

- Contracts to slay roaming demonic bands by the state.

- Gathering ingredients (demon parts) for the 'elders' who still seek to use demon contracting.

- Aiding local hunters on their hunts and protecting them from the rampant demonic threat.

- Military training in tactics and strategy.


Number on Map: 2
Demonic Presence: Very High
Name of Country: Claw Country [爪の国, Tsume no Kuni]

Number on Map: 5
Demonic Presence: Medium
Name of Country: Fang Country [牙の国, Kiba no Kuni]

Number on Map: 6
Demonic Presence: Very Low
Name of Country: Grass Country [草の国, Kusa no Kuni]
Climate Description: Minor snowfall and hailstorms during more frigid 'winter months' not withstanding, Grass Country [草の国, Kusa no Kuni] enjoys a very continental tropical climate, like it's neighbor to the south east, Rain Country - [雨の国, Ame no Kuni] . The country has distinct wet and dry seasons. During the wet season, it rains almost perpetually at varied intensities for days on end with short breaks of intense sunlight during the winter solstice. The same is true during the dry season when the sun shines down uninterrupted with the sole exception of the summer solstice where summer showers bring relief to the flora and fauna.
Terrain Description: The country is made up of vast plains and gentle rolling hills. The entire country can be likened to a Savannah in the dry season and a semi-marshy 'wet-land' in the rainy season. The grass grows thickest at the southern part of the country where it becomes more forest-like but beyond that remains fairly constant throughout the nation. Small rural towns litter the quaint country-side and the only urban area would be the capitol city.
Government Style: The country is made up of landed gentry who report directly to the Daimyo on the state of their provinces. While each 'lord' operates more or less independent of the others, inter-marriage and a common ancestor tie all the lords back to the Daimyo who is thought to be 'the one of purist blood' amongst the nobles.
Political Description/Foreign Policy: While its only neighbors, Claw Country [爪の国, Tsume no Kuni] and Fang Country [牙の国, Kiba no Kuni] are perpetually war with one another, Grass Country [草の国, Kusa no Kuni] maintains very friendly relations with both of them. The reason for this is purely economical however. Since both countries need the ample supply of grains that it produces, both offer several incentives for the country to maintain trade with them. With this, the Daimyo's coffers have become quite filled with coin, making the nobles quite wealthy. However, this does not directly co-relate to the peasants more often than not.
Military Type Description: The country is heavily dependent on its warring neighbors to keep it safe, both from one another and from any miscellaneous conflicts within itself. The Daimyo, rather than build up an army for himself pays mercenaries to do whatever military work needs to be done. In most provinces, a volunteer town watch works similarly (though for much less coin) when the nobles are too interested in their own gains than those of their fief.
Religious Information/Belief System (if any): Because of the variety of nations with which it shares borders, the country houses numerous beliefs and varied religions.
Sundry Information: This country produces the most varied assortment of grains in the world and its peasants distill the grains into many different types of alcohols that can be purchased at 'dirt cheap' prices.
Specialty of Country: Grains and alcoholic beverages.
Shinobi Interaction:

- Mercenary work for the Daimyo or his House of Lords [More coin and less fame]

- Mercenary work for the peasants and the town watch [More fame and less coin]

- Establishing a spy network using the moonshine underground.

- Robin-Hood-esque work; stealing from the nobles and returning money to the peasants (Illegal but appreciated)

[More information on the others to come]


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@ Sai: Alright I'll add in Whirlpool country now.

[sai]

Took care of Whirlpool Country as you probably have seen on the wiki. When we complete our tasks, I think only number 13 would be left which is that buffer zone between the manga Fire and manga Lightning Countries. After that is accounted for, we should have the entire map littered with information for each countries. A final stamp of approval from Ryoku and the map is official.

[so-ri-]

We also have the 'foreign' eastern continent (19) to do as well. I dunno how we'll do that but I've got Grass Country and Earth Country finished.

Fang and Claw Countries will be done momentarily. I'm also done with the new map (sans 13 and 19 that is)

So I'll upload it to the wiki for people to see.

[sai]

I think I can do number 13 as well: Ground/Soil Country [地の国, Chi no Kuni]. The transliteration is the same as Blood Country [血の国] which would fit into the background pretty well. The country would be a banking center of the continent and the capital would be Ryo, the same kanji [両] as the currency. It would be similar to how in Europe the florins from Florence in its peak was widely utilized. The first reason for its second name is because its primarily produces copper and gold coins. Gold with copper in them have a red coloring to it. The second reason is that everything has a monetary value in their society. If you break the law or kill off someone, as long as you pay the appropriate price, you're free to go. As a stable financial center, it is also the only country that can attempt to give banknotes since the soft currency is backed by precious metals.

Number 19, I think I have in mind a sort of Mongolian/Hun Horde due to the very high demonic presence. The Heian period which we associated the Sage's time with ended when two regent clans competed for dominance. The clan that won established the feudal lords in place as administrators and was subsequently severely weakened by the Mongol invasions even though they were repelled. Perhaps a nomadic horde sacking the main banking center in this RP would destabilize the known world and bring forth full scale chaos.

[sai]

Number on Map: 12
Demonic Presence: Medium
Name of Country: Autumn Country [秋の国, Aki no Kuni]
Climate Description: Temperate, very similar to Fire Country [火の国, Hi no Kuni] in which it cycles between two climates - wet and dry. Due to the mountain range separating it from River Country, it is much more humid in comparison to Fire and Spring Country.
Government Style: Similar to Fire Country, a royal family line of Daimyo which is patriarchal in nature going from father to first born son runs the nation. The line of Daimyos are widely known for being militaristic in nature and utilizes excessive force in the face of threats.
Political Description/Foreign Policy: Although Autumn Country is known for its militaristic nature, the peace in the heartland has largely held due to close marital ties to Spring Country [春の国, Haru no Kuni]). In recent years, the marriage policy has evolved into a point of contention with Fire Country [火の国, Hi no Kuni] to the north due to the reigning Daimyo of Spring Country being without a male heir.
Military Type Description: Strength is respected in Autumn Country as the power is considered by its inhabitants as key to peace. Autumn Country possesses a powerful professional army and is known for its ruthlessness when engaging its enemies. The army of Autumn Country is particular skilled in the use of spears and curved blades due to its similarities with farming equipment. To counter the perceived lack of defenses against ranged weaponry, a war fan is commonly used by the front line troops to lower casualties until within striking distance.
Religious Information/Belief System (if any): There is a strong belief in power and survival of the fittest that permeates the varying classes from the ruling class to the peasants.
Sundry Information: Aside from its military strength, the Country is known for its volume of agricultural produces, third only to Fire Country and Rain Country. Like Grass Country, wheat and rice are commonly distilled into alcohol and sold widely.
Specialty of Country: Due to pride in their works, the quality of alcohol produced from Autumn Country is significantly better than those produced in Grass Country.
Shinobi Interaction:
-Protect shipping against pirates based off Whirlpool Country
-Protect the alcohol industry by destroying low quality moonshine that is smuggled from Grass Country
-Take part in covert missions in discrediting the possible successors of the Daimyo of Spring Country to facilitate the inheritance by Autumn Country

Number on Map: 13
Demonic Presence: Very Low
Name of Country: Ground/Soil Country [地の国, Chi no Kuni]
Climate Description: Temperate, cycles between the four seasons of which the winter are comparable to Lightning Country to the north and the the summer are comparable to Fire Country to the south. The climate is very similar to the northern half of Rain Country to the west.
Government Style: Formerly ruled by a lineage of Daimyos, the local feudal lords and bankers had risen up approximately thirty years ago and exiled the last Daimyo for corruption. An oligarchy was established in the place of the Daimyo with power concentrated in the hands of the local feudal lords. In order to maintain the support of the bankers, a forum was established for the rest of its citizens to express their opinions.
Political Description/Foreign Policy: Possessing immense copper, gold and silver deposits, Ground/Soil Country is the financial center of the known world. The gold-copper coins minted in Ground/Soil Country is named after the capital, Ryō [両] and is used as legal tender across national lines. Ground/Soil Country maintains a friendly relations with the rest of the world to facilitate its financial activities. Two countries (Grass Country [草の国, Kusa no Kuni] and Lightning Country [雷の国, Kaminari no Kuni]) have recently strained its relation with Ground/Soil Country. Due to its policy of enriching itself at the expense of two warring states, Grass Country has recently emerged as an economic rival while Lightning Country has indicated interest in subjugating the oligarchic state by hosting the last Daimyo's son.
Military Type Description: Due to its immense wealth, the country hosts many mercenaries from around the world giving it an edge in variability. Aside from these mercenaries, Ground/Soil Country possesses a volunteer militia made up of its citizens which can be mobilized at a moment's notice. The members of this volunteer militia are known for its use of rapid-fire crossbows. To counter the recent militaristic ambitions of Lightning Country [雷の国, Kaminari no Kuni], one of the feudal lords have taken in refugees from demon attacks across the Eastern Ocean, a tribe of nomadic horsemen that are becoming better known for superior horseback archery...
Religious Information/Belief System (if any): Due to its status as the financial center of the known world, Ground/Soil Country is a melting pot of religions and cultures. As such there is no single dominant religion but the prevailing belief is that everything regardless of importance has a monetary value. Even murder can be paid off by money which have caused the common people to refer to Ground/Soil Country as Blood Country [血の国].
Sundry Information: The gold-copper coins that are widely used are of a reddish hue which further reinforces the nickname the Country has earned.
Specialty of Country: Aside from being the financial/banking center of the known world, Ground/Soil Country is known for its patronage of artists. With the help of these artists, a counterfeit-proof banknote has recently been introduced as a substitute for hard currency.
Shinobi Interaction:
-Protect the caravan of hard currency transported to and from the Country
-Destroy counterfeiting activities whether aimed at hard currency or the new banknote
-Attempt a heist aimed at a portion of the Country's gold bullion [Highly Illegal - Bounties on All Associates]

Number on Map: 14
Demonic Presence: Low
Name of Country: Spring Country [春の国, Haru no Kuni]
Climate Description: Temperate, very similar to Fire Country [火の国, Hi no Kuni] in which it cycles between two climates - wet and dry. Due to its proximity to the Eastern Ocean, the winters are warmer and summers are colder compared to Fire Country.
Government Style: Similar to Fire Country, a royal family line of Daimyo which is patriarchal in nature going from father to first born son runs the nation. There are close marital ties to its neighbors to the west (Fire Country [火の国, Hi no Kuni] and Autumn Country [秋の国, Aki no Kuni]) to maintain the peace in the heartland.
Political Description/Foreign Policy: The court is largely pacifist in nature and seeks to resolve many of its problems diplomatically. Although traditionally known for close ties with both Fire and Autumn Countries, the current Daimyo is advanced in age without a heir leaving a succession crisis brewing in the midst. The reigning Daimyo of Autumn Country has laid claim on the throne on behalf of his own son who is a grandson of the Daimyo of Spring Country via a daughter.
Military Type Description: Although possessing a large population and capable volunteer militia, Spring Country has traditionally resorted on the military strength of its allies from Fire and Autumn Countries. The volunteer militia are known for the long distance accuracy of their bows and rely on spears/halberds in close quarter combat.
Religious Information/Belief System (if any): The western half of Spring Country shares the belief in the 'Will of Fire' with Fire Country while the eastern half believe in a polytheistic mix of religions from the northeast (Lightning and Metal Countries) and east (Water Country).
Sundry Information: Due to its climate, Spring Country is widely known for the beautiful and variable flowers that grow within its borders.
Specialty of Country: It is known for high quality aromatic perfumes that are create from the oils of the flowers grown.
Shinobi Interaction:
-Protect shipping against pirates based off Whirlpool Country
-Protect its diplomats as they secure agreements with different countries
-Protect the royal family from harm

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Done...

As you probably noticed, Autumn Country is very Uchiha friendly and created with the intent to mirror how Fire Country adopted the Senju ancestor's beliefs.

[Ryoku]

All of them look really good, as does the one you PM'd me, which can all be added to the list. Awesome work guys :3

[sai]

Alright, I've added mine to the wiki page with the terrain descriptions which for some reason were forgotten... I think with so-ri's two countries entered in the wiki, we should be done with that. After the countries are compiled, we can doublecheck it for inconsistencies and do the minor edits. Then it should be okay for final approval.

As for the Kaguya, I'll work on fixing it tonight since it has to be compatible with the system that is out so far.

[so-ri-]

Okay! Here we go, the finished labeled country map:

Spoiler

And I'll add in the information for Claw and Fang countries either momentarily or later tonight as I have some stuff going on soon =P

[Ryoku]

Out of curiosity, would you be able to put the translated names in there as well to make them easier to reference? If so, that would be amazing ^_^

EDIT: Also, thanks to Zak/Trent for some more genjutsu, and to reply to sai, yes you would be able to split. You can *almost* go on any mission, as you'll see soon (not just those in your home country). There are just advantages for being within certain countries, as well as holding influence within them.

[so-ri-]

Hooray for new maps! Okay, after talking with Ryoku we have one map to rule them all (except Sai and his 1337 mountain/tectonic plates)

Spoiler

This map has; English names for those of us who don't care, Romanji names for the Japanophiles among us and actual Kanji character names for those of us who know kanji =P

[Sasuke]

Im not sure if its supposed to be like this, but when I click on the spoiler in the Country status thing..is it supposed to be empty?

[Ryoku]

Yes. There isn't definite information in them yet. It's a project that I wanted to make sure I at least frameworked since I was rushing to do something with it before my TW started and my parents got to my apartment.

[Sasuke]

Oh..okay. Neato, hmm. Are you just focusing on clan-work right now then for us?

[sai]

On second thought, Ground Country -> Soil Country would sound a little better. so-ri's map has it as Soil Country so it's easier to change the text. Aside from that, what do you need for the sub project - population, wealth or agricultural yield data?

I'll fix the Kaguya later tonight.

[so-ri-]

Fang Country and Claw Country are added to the listing now. Sorry it took so long I had to fly to school n' all that.

Anyway, whenever we're ready we can begin the real stuff =P

[Ryoku]

I'm just tweaking with the influence for clans, a few more jutsu, and then character sheets. It's going to be a lot of playtesting for a while, since solid numbers will be hard to truly finalize without a good deal of playtesting, but beyond that there isn't much more to do.

That being said, I'm taking some time off with friends. Rough times for them.

[Ryoku]

Alright, I've provided some country stuff. The first (Earth Country) is an example of how a completed section will look with the clan presence (used the Uchiha for an example, since their jutsu list is already approved). I've moved into some other countries (up to Wind) and populated them with baseline data.

All of the countries will get this kind of information. This is how influence will be utilized. This will make your choice of countries that you have influence in important. I will complete write-ups for how Influence works later, as well as continue working on this. Clan leaders can assign colors to their clan names for the influence list.

If anybody has any questions regarding this or anything else, feel free to ask here or in PMs as you see fit.

[Sasuke]

Awesome. I'd like Uchiha colors to be Red and bold please, is this how the colors list is working that you were speaking of?

[Ryoku]

Yeah, I'll take care of it then.

[Sasuke]

Sweet. Say::

Sharingan Evolution - Stage Two
Ability Level: 0 [0 Exp]
B-Rank Passive Augmentation ~ Sharingan Bloodline Tree
Requires: Uchiha Blood; 4 Perception Cost: n/a ~ Time: 1 Sphere
Passive Technique ~ Technique Augmentation
Description: Gathering chakra into your eyes, you shift your eyes in to the second stage of the Sharingan, two marks in each eye.
Effect: While Sharingan Release is active, the user also gets a bonus to Mental Dodge equal to Ability Level. You may use Technique Analysis to instantly obtain a technique if you exceed all of the skill requirements by 1. The technique is locked at level 1 until you spend a number of Production Points equal to 75% what it would take to research the skill with a teacher (rounded up). If you would receive a penalty to a Perception dice roll, reduce the penalty by up to this technique's ability level. This technique's ability level cannot exceed that of Sharingan Release.

Sharingan Evolution - Stage Three
Ability Level: 0 [0 Exp]
A-Rank Passive Augmentation ~ Sharingan Bloodline Tree
Requires: Uchiha Blood; 5 Perception Cost: n/a ~ Time: 1 Sphere
Passive Technique ~ Technique Augmentation
Description: Gathering chakra into your eyes, you shift your eyes in to the third stage of the Sharingan, three marks in each eye. This is the highest form seen thus far in history.
Effect: While Sharingan Release is active, increase your Physical and Mental Defend, all dice pools involving Perception, and all dice pools when performing Genjutsu by 1 for each level in this technique. This technique's ability level cannot exceed that of Sharingan Evolution - Stage Two.


In the third stage, there is no bonus to physical and mental dodge anymore than the bonus in Stage 2, but a bonus to Physical and Mental defend? So upon Stage 3 being used, its Physical and Mental Dodge, Physical and Mental Defend, if I would take a penalty to Perception dice roll- reduce it by Stage 2's ability level, all dice pools involving Perception and all dice pools involved while performing Genjutsu by 1 for each level in stage 3, right?

Also, is there a requirement reduction for technique copying at stage 3? I noticed there wasnt one, but the Technique Analysis thing, was that something I was supposed to be working on, or you? Cuz I know you spoke of it in the submission thread.

Thanks Ryoku~

[Ryoku]

Too much dodge would be overly broken so I nipped that in the bud and forgot to contact you about it. I'll edit in the change to Technique Analysis. Technique Analysis exists in the Technique Knowledge tree. Also, yes, all of the abilities would stack upon each other once you hit 3, so you're getting a shitload of bonuses.

Anything else?

[Sasuke]

Other than a warm thank you that seems to be it at this point in time. =D How are you this afternoon anyhow? Im moving back to my dorm finally, yay!

Any other work for the underlings or the Sharingan underling?

[so-ri-]

I was bored so:

Earth Wiki

Anyway, if anyone wants a country to be made as a new page or whatever it'll be cool. We could also keep the amount of influence each clan has as well as their 'perks'/'de-perks' on this page as well.

[Ryoku]

More progress on clans couldn't hurt, I still have to deal with the vamp chakra-suck thing just a bit. Been watching a lot of InuYasha, though. I'll get on the vamp thing and the Uchiha thing in just a bit.

[Sasuke]

Inuyasha lol. Awesome. More progress, storylines? or more phase 1 stuff? Im not sure lol

[Ryoku]

More Phase I stuff. Got things to finish.

EDIT: Mind you, it's just the last leg of things. Finalizing how things are done.

[Sasuke]

Im still not sure which clan things phase one entails that arent jutsu though. Hmm..primary element? Im dumb.

[so-ri-]

I have a question regarding skills. >>;

The highest level of both skills (with the exception of Specializations) and stats is level 10 (if I'm reading this right)

However, since specialties work retroactively like say I have a character with

Melee - 7
-Melee>Dagger - 5

That means when I'm using a dagger or a knife (for example a kunai) then the melee knowledge adds to the specialty knowledge. In this case 7 + 5 = 12. Since 13 > 10 does that mean with a total specialization you can raise anything to 15 max rather than 10 or 'once it reaches the max 10 it's stuck there and can't go any higher'

If the former situation is true then what is to stop me from making something that goes say....

Melee - 10 [Total Exp Spent: 170 = 110 + 60 (15*4)]
-Melee>Dagger - 5
-Melee>Pole-Arm - 5
-Melee>Sword - 5
-Melee> Axe - 5

etc. I mean granted that seems to be the 'elite soldier' class for an NPC which would be rockin' but yeah >>; for a PC, once you reach that threshold where maxing things gets pretty 'normal' as far as skills go, then it can get pretty wild.

Since I don't actually know how the exp gain will work aside from 'everything you do is 1 exp' and 'at the end of an rp you can get more' I dunno.

Anyway, this can be abused in a mission by using a lot of unnecessary skills to gain the exp. xP But I assume when a skill/technique is used the exp award is only for that specifically. Which is kind of cool cause it allows you to rank up skills or techniques (jutsu) mid-Rp, which is usually what happens in a long manga-style fight.

[LanderZ]

Originally Posted by so-ri-

I have a question regarding skills. >>;

The highest level of both skills (with the exception of Specializations) and stats is level 10 (if I'm reading this right)

However, since specialties work retroactively like say I have a character with

Melee - 7
-Melee>Dagger - 5

That means when I'm using a dagger or a knife (for example a kunai) then the melee knowledge adds to the specialty knowledge. In this case 7 + 5 = 13. Since 13 > 10 does that mean with a total specialization you can raise anything to 15 max rather than 10 or 'once it reaches the max 10 it's stuck there and can't go any higher'

If the former situation is true then what is to stop me from making something that goes say....

Melee - 10 [Total Exp Spent: 170 = 110 + 60 (15*4)]
-Melee>Dagger - 5
-Melee>Pole-Arm - 5
-Melee>Sword - 5
-Melee> Axe - 5

etc. I mean granted that seems to be the 'elite soldier' class for an NPC which would be rockin' but yeah >>; for a PC, once you reach that threshold where maxing things gets pretty 'normal' as far as skills go, then it can get pretty wild.

Since I don't actually know how the exp gain will work aside from 'everything you do is 1 exp' and 'at the end of an rp you can get more' I dunno.

Anyway, this can be abused in a mission by using a lot of unnecessary skills to gain the exp. xP But I assume when a skill/technique is used the exp award is only for that specifically. Which is kind of cool cause it allows you to rank up skills or techniques (jutsu) mid-Rp, which is usually what happens in a long manga-style fight.

I'm sorry, but 7+5=13? Are you serious?

[so-ri-]

I'm sorry but trolling much? 7 + 5 = 12. I first had 8 + 5 = 13, but I didn't like the no. 13 so I changed it to 7 + 5 and forgot to change the end result. So go away~

In any case, I had another question, this time about soak.

Your N. Soak (Natural) is equal to half your stamina at Dev. 1. Which stamina?

Stats:

Physical: The Physical realm is how the character can interact with the world around them. It is made up of Strength which correlates to how much force they can apply in terms of raw muscle, Dexterity which determines how well they can manipulate objects and properly coordinate them, and Stamina which is how resilient they are to the environment. Those that practice martial arts or weapon forms are prime examples of those that are most effective with the physical realm.

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Parameters:

Parameters are ways of gauging your character's limits in specific areas that are of importance to the system mechanics in order to adequately represent combat.

Stamina
Stamina represents your health, and is determined by a simple formula:

10 + Endurance + Development

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Additionally, we have three uhh 'types' of parameter stamina, albeit they're all the same number but your 'total parameter stamina' (for lack of a better term) is 3 times the number of it's constituents.

Thus my question is;

Does natural soak;

a) Use the stat stamina as its base

b) Use the 'one' value on parameters as its base

or

c) Use the 'total stamina of all three types of parameter stamina' as its base.
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[Ryoku]

This is not to nag but just to point out, you used a bad example the first time, although it was a recent edit so it may not have been seen. Anyways: Specializations can only be half the level of the umbrella skill. So 7 melee 5 dagger is a really bad example in that respect, but I understand what you were saying nonetheless.

To provide an answer to your question, the total number of different Specializations you can have is based on your Development. If you want to pool all of your specializations into one skill, then you are right, there indeed is nothing stopping you from having 20 different weapons in there. However, it would really suck if you came across someone that had a dodging skill that was based around dodging melee weapons, and you didn't have specializations elsewhere. It's the typical problem that arises with an over-focused opponent: you just have to find the weak point. But yes, you could total 15 normal dice (no use of the skill specialty tree, which could run it to upwards of 25ish dice off the top of my head, other effects from techniques notwithstanding).

Also, 'normally maxing things out' shouldn't really occur, since it takes a good period of time to max out skills at all. It's not going to be TSN, where you do two missions and max out one stat.

Insofar as Stamina, I was talking about the stat. Originally I even had a skill named Stamina (later became Endurance, I think?), so I think I just overkilled that word in general. Anyways, I will change it (probably to Vitality, since I like that word too xD) so that there is no further confusion on this matter. Thank you for pointing that out.

EDIT: Changes have been made.

[Ryoku]

DP-

After reviewing how light the development requirements were, I've multiplied them by a factor of 5. I've also overhauled how the techniques were organized, so now it's pretty <3

It appears I have a few gaps to spend my time filling. That being said... if anybody has *ideas* for BASIC techniques (E/D/C rank) for any -empty- parts of the scroll of techniques, they may submit them. They will become standard things, not licensed.